Tuesday, February 5, 2019

All right, let's talk Ghostbusters 3.



I did my big buildup for "Ghostbusters: Answer The Call", I should probably tackle this one in a similar fashion.

Starting with the Ghostbusters 3 version of "In defense of the Ghostbusters reboot".
Well, doesn't need much defending, this is the one everyone wanted.

But, I could revise my arguments, I guess.

Re: "Waaahh! It's a reboot!! Me no wanna reboot!!".

I said...

And sure, I vowed to avoid all horror remakes from that moment forward...but then I went to see the Evil Dead remake, and was pleasantly surprised, and proudly added it to the collection.

Then, renewed financial interest in the property led to "Ash vs Evil Dead", so everyone's happy.

Whelp, both the renewed interest, and the backlash, led to GB3, so here we are.


Re: "Waaahhh!! I wanted an original cast reunion!!".

I said...

Okay, the casual movie fans that don't follow the internet have this narrative in their head that they're hanging onto like fucking grim death, and it has no validity, and it goes like this.

"A cast reunion was on the table, but then evil feminists swooped in on their brooms, and stole it away".

No.
Just no.
Dumbasses.

A cast reunion wasn't on the table, it was never gonna happen, it was dead as a doornail.
Forever.
Accept it.
Bill Murray didn't want to do it, and then Harold Ramis died.
It was dead in the water.
Finito.
Done.
Over.

It was reboot, or nothing.
Forever.
And Hollywood doesn't let a profitable IP die forever, that's not how any business works.

So, if you wanted NO reboot out of spite, that wasn't on the table either.
It was reboot or bust.
Whether it happened now, or 20 years from now.
And they weren't gonna wait that long either.
Its been 25 years since GB2, we've waited long enough.

If you wanted to go to your grave with no more Ghostbusters, you're just petty and selfish.

Well, at the time, I was correct.
Bill Murray kept refusing to do it.

The deal was struck back when they made the first one that the four main guys and Ivan had to all agree on the script before moving ahead on a sequel.
If any of the 5 disagreed, it went back to the drawing board.

Bill Murray saying "no", kept it in Development Hell for 30+ years.
He had all the power.
And he used it.
And there was no reason at all to expect that he wouldn't keep doing so.

He didn't enjoy filming GB2, and didn't like how it came out, so he didn't want to go through that again.
He peed on the parade.

Only once he was butt-hurt after ATC came out has he softened on that.

So, you can kiss Paul Feig's boots, haters.


Re: "Why all women?? Why can't it be a gender balanced team?".

Looks like you're getting one.

So, shaddap.


Re: "I hope it fails!!".

Well, it did.
Did it make your life better?
How's your healthcare?
Your taxes?
Your job prospects?
Oh, you shot yourself, and the entire middle class, and all your LGBT, Hispanic, and black friends and relatives in the faces with a bazooka by voting Trump?
Well, enjoy your pyrrhic victory.
You nasty incel dipshits.


Then, wrapping up that post, I said...

And here's the important bit, and I reference back to the Evil Dead remake.
If it succeeds, we get other stuff.
They didn't create Ghostcorps just to make this one flick.
We're also getting tons of classic GB merch goodies just from this one coming out.
There's more of that on the way if we get more films.
There's an animated one lined up that just got a director.
And there's that Channing Tatum led one I haven't heard anything new about in awhile.

Supporting GB16 gets us to that stuff.
Hopefully, it's also actually good.

Well, It didn't succeed, but we did and are getting that other stuff from Ghostcorp.
The merch, the crossover comics, and this third chapter to the originals.
(Not so much the Channing Tatum one though (thank goodness))
You gotta learn to play the long game.


Now, from "Ghostbusters: The Lean Years (Part 2)"....

And, with my recent investigations into my lost memories, I really know why Ghostbusters was a sigh of relief.
"The Demon Murder Case".
That came out just the year before this.
Fuck you, Lorraine Warren, fuck you.
And thank you, Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis.
You were the antidote to a lot of childhood trauma.

Yeah, it's really hard in our dopey culture not to believe in, and be scared by, the supernatural.
Throw "Poltergeist", in there too.
"Poltergeist", was 1982, "Demon Murder Case", was 1983, and "Ghostbusters", finally came as an antidote in 1984.

We need this franchise to be around.

Also...

The IDW series started with Infestation, and for me, it was the year of hell, which I like even less than 1997.
Looking forward to that dumb series kept me sane during massive grief and fear.
And looking back, the Ghostbusters part was the best part, possibly the only good part.

So, it got me back into Ghostbusters without knowing it at the time.
And the Busters saved my sanity yet again.

Thank you, IDW.

Yep, and now we're in the Trump years.
Save us, 'Busters!


Well, that's re-examining old stuff, now for new stuff.

Plot conjecture!!

Ivan Reitman said Jason Reitman's pitch made him cry.
So, I'm guessing they're gonna tackle the loss of Egon head on.
Combined with the teaser trailer image of the Ecto coming out of dust and mothballs, I think it goes down like this...

After GB2, the guys had a third adventure that went south, and that's where they lost Egon.
Either he got fried, or he got physically swallowed up into the ghost dimension.
Or, a little of both.
Ray kept trying to get him back with gizmos, the other two guys gave up, and moved on, then Ray finally threw in the towel, sold the firehouse, and moved out to his family's farm.
Which is what's in the teaser trailer.

Then jump ahead 30 years, and his nephew and niece move in cuz their parents fell on hard times.
The niece and nephew meet a boy and girl friend at school, and the four of them become the new teenage Ghostbusters.

The thing that killed/kidnapped Egon comes back, there's your villain.

Bam, there you go.

Jason Reitman has a track record of tear-jerky drama-dies so I think we're in for some tissue boxes necessary for this one.
Good!
It needs to be different.
I hope it pisses off purists again.
And still rakes in 700 million.

And finally...

For me, GB16 GB3 just has to be better than GB2.
If it can clear that hurdle, anything above that is gravy.

My expectations for TFA were just "just be better than Episode 3".
It cleared that jump by a factor of 10.

*Crosses fingers* please be good.

I'll link to this to reference in the review of the flick when I finally go to it.
See you then.

Yep to all of that.
See you next time.


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