Another dead celeb I was too depressed to keep track of at the time, cuz Ma was sick, and in her last days.
He was Madmartigan in "Willow" and that was one of Ma's favorite fantasy films ever.
Probably because she thought he was hot. 😏😆
He was in "Real Genius" which I consider the superior substitute to "Revenge of the Nerds" because "Revenge" is rapey and gross, and "Genius" is sweet, and kind, and anti-war.
The real 90's tech-sector nerds ended up like the "Revenge" nerds.
Bill Gates even went to Epstein island. Fuck.
Be like the "Real Genuis" nerds, kids.
He was Iceman in both "Top Gun" flicks.
And, he was the second least-loved Batman.
I thought he was comic accurate to 90's comic Batman.
Adam West Batman was a crazy person who took himself dead seriously, and all of Gotham played along. That had crept back in by the 90's, but not in the parody way like Adam did it.
90's Batman was starting to unravel a little, and in "Forever" you've even got him going to a sexy shrink.
Val Kilmer Batman is Robert Pattinson Batman, but everyone in Gotham loves him, and treats him like Santa in the Macy's parade.
Pattinson-Bats, the cops are still skeptical, and sneer with revulsion when he shows up.
I've always dimly suspected Adam West, Val Kilmer, and George Clooney used some stolen super-villain's mind control drug or ray to make Gotham love them.
And tested it on Robin.
😏
Give "Forever" another look. It's still not the greatest, but it's better than people give it credit for.
It's weird, but that's why I like it.
Anyway, 65 is too young to die.
Fuck cancer.
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Interestingly, you posted this right after a new wave of post-mortem Kilmer bashing has sprung up, this time due to a guy who directed him in a movie I don't even remember:
http://ew.com/val-kilmer-conspiracy-director-says-actor-was-the-worst-human-being-ive-ever-known-11988231
And unlike Chevy Chase, he's not even alive to defend himself!
He sure did have a good run from "Top Secret" through "Heat"--it wasn't fighting with Schumacher and losing "Batman & Robin" (what a loss, huh?) that derailed his career, it was "Dr. Moreau" in 1996, and that movie behind the scenes was supposed to be a complete shit show, maybe one rung down the ladder from Big Budget Auteur shit shows like "Apocalypse Now," "Heaven's Gate" or "Fitzcarraldo." He was in "Heat" the same year as "Batman Forever," and that's regarded as one of his best performances.
He probably peaked when he played Jim Morrison, which was a terrific performance and an iconic one, albeit in a terrible movie.
I think the last thing I saw him in was looking fat and middle aged in a small role in Werner Herzog's goofy "Bad Lieutenant: Port Of Call-New Orleans." I didn't see the "Top Gun" sequel, but it's amusing that he was even brought back for it, considering that he openly admitted to giving a bad performance on purpose in the original.
There was a documentary a couple years ago called simply "Val" which got good reviews and which I was considering watching because it's allegedly not a hagiography, we don't need any more of those. I never like hagiographies.
Oh, and I've said it before, but I'll say it again: "Forever" is the most watchable of the four pre-Nolan Batmans.
The original has a few nice visual ideas, but it's a mess in a lot of ways (I remember someone saying they watched footage of young Tim Burton racing around the set and saying it was amazing he even got it made at all) and I sort of only like the Nicholson performance ironically. Keaton was barely used at all--it's hilarious that anyone would ever think of Batman first when they think of Michael Keaton!
"Returns" is a psycho hateful violent sick minded kiddie movie and is only watchable if you view it as a big middle finger joke on Burton's part.
B&R is a big fat expensive garish visually repulsive turd.
So, Schumacher be damned..."Forever"'s the one with the least wrong with it, so it wins by default.
Yeah, if Schumacher and this new guy can't give specifics, and can't corroborate, they both should have shut up. Without proof, it's just internet flames.
Lol, I forgot how much you have it out for "Batman Returns". I think it's a hoot if you're feeling really Grinchy about Christmas. Plus Christopher Walken is very obviously playing Trump, so it has that prophesy element going on.
Yeah, that probably was Trump Walken was playing wasn't it...oh wait, you said "PROPHESY element," yeah, Walken, prophesy, see what you did there, etc.
I don' really *hate* BR, but it wasn't really made for a target audience of ironic college kids, it was made for general audiences. Penguin sinking away in the water at the end with blue blood dribbling out his mouth, Max Schreck's ridiculous over the top death complete with shot of charred corpse with bulging eyes and wide open mouth, Penguin biting that guy's nose off, that dumb blonde Vanna White type getting thrown off the roof (always Burton's penchant for "let's kill the cartoonishly stupid person!!!") , Catwoman's weirdo death...the first two Indiana Jones movies didn't get away with this much shit! I dunno why this particular load of nasty entertainment for little kids irks me more than, say, all those violent fighting video games from back then.
I still have to give Burton sort of a pass, if only for "Ed Wood." I guess I like Pee-Wee, too.
I keep forgetting the "Prophesy" films. I was actually going for a "Dead Zone" thing. 😉 As for the "'Batman Returns' was ostensibly for little kids" argument, hey, I saw "Conan The Barbarian" "The Thing" "The Demon Murder Case" and "The Children" as a kid, and I turned out just fine. (Nervous eyelid tick)
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